I ordered a pair of these in December 2020. I have used them and like them enough that I am buying two more pair. I went up a size above my normal short and they fit fine. They give excellent padding in the right places. My seat is not uncomfortable, but on rough trails it is imperative to have the extra padding the the right places. After years of putting up with single pad cycling shorts, I decided to try this design. It works for me. My other shorts are never my first choice anymore and once these two pair come I will be ready for multiple days with these comfortable shorts.